Hurricanes Are Getting Too Large To Measure
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Published 2024-03-17
Paper: www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2308901121
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Chapters
00:00 Hurricanes Are Getting too Big to Measure
3:35 The Saffir-Simpson Hurricane Wind Scale
5:33 Hurricanes That Broke The Scale
7:01 The Destructive Power Of Wind
7:45 How Hurricanes Are Formed
9:30 Introducing Hurricane Category 6
11:22 How Warmer Water Temperatures Create Stronger Hurricanes
13:38 Can We Predict Hurricanes?
15:09 What Does This Mean For Us?
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All Comments (21)
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Im not sure why everyone ignores what happened to us in 2018 with hurricane Michael but I can tell you the stats on google are wrong. We had CONFIRMED sustained winds over 190 MPH and we had gusts reaching over 240 mph. We got screwed by FEMA and insurance companies, ignored by the media, and denied FEDERAL AID during the whole ordeal. Some of us were without power for 2 or more months and the path of devastation was visible on satellite imagery all the way into Georgia. It took them 6 months to even come back and admit that the Hurricane made landfall as a cat 5. I dont know if adding another category to the scale is going to make a difference when we dont properly record the data anyway.
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Oh, the Super Sayen Reference.... 😢 R.I.P. Akira Toriyama 😭😭😭
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Going through one of these things is almost indescribable. The changes in pressure before, then during, then eye, then hurricane again, hurt my eardrums. They are so loud, its like having your ear right next to a lawn mower. There are the occasional loud booms as large objects hit the building. There was a farm supply store that sold hay with telephone poles near by, and you could see individual strands stuck about 5 cm in the pole.
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I think the current scale for classifying hurricanes is grossly inadequate. Hurricane Patricia was a small intense storm. Hurricanes are vastly different in size and intensity. A small category 5 that spins up fast has a limited storm surge. A large category 3 with a long fetch, while not the same wind speed can have an enormous storm surge that can wipe all evidence of human habitation from coastal areas. A storm much weaker in wind speed, but lower forward speed can dump catastrophic amounts of rain and cause thousand year floods. Until we start trusting the public with information rather than minimizing panic, people will die from ignorance. Slapping a number on a storm without really preparing people for what's coming is negligence. The 5 categories we have are already inadequate, adding the number 6 leaves the inadequacy in place and adds more confusion with deadly results.
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Roughly 30 years ago i watched every series the Weather Channel had to offer....i wanted to be a meteorologist. After 50 years of studying......these are no longer hurricanes....they are Hypercaines....they were just a theory storm 40 years ago.....now they are real.❤ Thank you for this...❤
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A correction. Meteorologist deals with weather. A Metrologist deals with precision measurements certifiable to National and World Standards Labs. I was a Chief Metrologist for Aircraft and Aerospace companies for many years. Great video with that one error.
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The flooding of New Orleans was due to the Army Corps of Engineers poor work on the protection walls. The very sad thing is, that exactly what happened was predicted in a book years before!
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Paul Beckwith has recently reviewed a number of papers highlighting the rapid decline of ice in the polar caps and warming oceans and impacts to global currents - last few days have been eye opening and depressing, as we have crossed over one of the big Tipping Points..., and this, unfortunately, dovetails into that presentation, harbingers of nasty things to come...
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There is one thing that I don’t understand, If wind is such a problem; Why don't they build houses with stone instead of toothpicks?
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Beau of the fifth column made a great point: right nnow people flee Cat 5 hurricanes because they have the highest rating and are most dangerous. If we introduce a Cat 6 level, many people will assume a Cat 5 isnt as deadly and will stay in the danger zone longer, and more deaths will happen.
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Hurricane threats need to be broken up into categories like how the SPC tries to define storm threats by risk of hail or damaging winds vs. just tornadoes. Only a limited area experiences the most damaging winds in a hurricane, so certain areas need to be warned more or less urgently for risks like storm surge or inland flooding.
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This is crazy, THE FASTEST WIND SPEEDS WE HAVE EVER "RECORDED" (OVER WATER). People keep forgetting that "ever recorded" has nothing to do with "never seen before" or "never happened".
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The most succinct summary I heard about all this is from Wally Broecker. “The climate system is an angry beast, and we are poking it with sticks.”
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I feel very fortunate to have lived in Florida 14 years and only went through Cat 1 & 2 hurricanes. Irma and Ian weren’t direct hits, and when the eye of Nicole passed over us it was a Cat 1. I cannot even imagine a Cat 5 or 6!! Ian was enough of a scare for me.
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Absolutely love your content Dr. Miles. Thanks for posting.
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This is a wonderful video topic. I've been hoping someone would discuss this for some time.
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I and many others saw this coming 50 years ago. It's basic thermodynamics; increase the total energy of a closed system with continuous flow and you get more intense fluctuations in local disorder. Entropy always wins in the end.
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To catogorize storms by windspeed falls short today in my opinion. Hurricanes pick up much more moisture now than before. They often move slower over the warmer ocean and at landfall the amount of rain can cause realy a lot of demage - although the windspeed is 'only' category 4.
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Sandy was a pretty big storm in the US, and close to 1800 km in diameter, very late in the season, where much of the precipitation fell as snow, with a substantial storm surge.
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For those who asked: 157 miles per hour = 252.667 kilometers per hour