A Warning On the Future of Music: with Author Ted Gioia | Podcast #1

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Published 2022-05-19
Ted Gioia is an American music critic and historian. He is author of eleven books, including Music: A Subversive History, The Jazz Standards: A Guide to the Repertoire, The History of Jazz and Delta Blues. He is also a jazz musician and one of the founders of Stanford University's jazz studies program.
Episode links:
Ted's Website: tedgioia.com/
Ted's Twitter: @tedgioia
Ted's Substack: The Honest Broker | Ted Gioia | Substack tedgioia.substack.com/
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All Comments (21)
  • the audience is smart... and underestimated... Joni Mitchell did a radio interview on the CBC in Canada quite a few years ago and I never forgot what she said: "Everybody knows the music business is run by crooks. At least in the old days, the crooks liked music"... What a memorable quote.
  • @CineMilledUSA
    What an amazing conversation. I would love a part 2 to this! Who is with me?!
  • It's so nice to hear smart people talk. It's like I'm living in a desert over here.
  • @ElectricJelly03
    I like Frank Zappas take on making music; "Theres a certain kind of person who likes my music, and I make it for them" (paraphrasing). Effectively, make what you want to make and you'll manifest an audience who appreciates it.
  • @BritSwitzer
    You know what's great about this interview? Rick didn't interrupt Ted like so many other interviewers do. Only short affirmations that he's listening, and following what Ted is saying. It's like the 10+ minute song of interviews.
  • @PeteOliva
    "I've studied this..." "I've looked into this..." The number of times Ted started a point saying this was incredibly refreshing. What an insightful and intellectual conversation. Actual INFORMED thoughts on display here. What a rarity in this world we live in. Thank you for having this talk, guys. Ted, I'm a fan now. And Rick, you're a gift .
  • @JoeLackey
    This needs to be required listening in every music program on the planet.
  • @alrobertson1432
    Rick, this comment deserves it's own thread. You are a very talented interviewer. I've seen it happen, far too often, that a YouTuber gets a power guest on, and then crumbles under the load. You did a fabulous job of steering this interview while maintaining a very light grasp on the wheel. Kudos!!
  • @thecoldmage_
    This video is the most intellectually stimulating and informative hour of content I've watched in goodness knows how long. I have never heard these topics related to music framed in such a brilliant and well communicated manner. Anyone with any level of influence in the industry needs to hear what Ted is saying and really pay attention to it.
  • I interviewed Ted a few years ago for his book about the Delta blues. Beyond being intelligent and talented, he was the most well-spoken author whom I've ever interviewed.
  • @DieNarbe
    Dear Rick, I'm a Musician from Germany. This is one of the most interesting Videos I've ever watched and listened to on YouTube in 20 years. Thank you so much, more of this! Great content on your Channel overall , may you get more great Guests and Topics onto your Channel in the Future . Love, Timmy
  • @marknovak6498
    I remember back in 1975 a year when there were 35 #1 hits on the billboard hot 100. That was a healthy, diverse year in music.
  • Just when you might think that Rick Beato doesn't have anything left to pull out of his extremely deep pockets, he reaches a little further and pulls this out. A fascinating interview. You, sir, are for many of us the most important commentator on/professor of all things music. Thank you!
  • The concept of, “If it’s interesting to me, it’ll be interesting to you.” It’s so simple, yet psychologically profound.
  • @jmikeperkins
    Great interview. As a struggling local singer-songwriter who is out in the trenches, I can tell you there is great new music out there on the local and regional level, but good luck ever hearing any of it because no major supports it and their monopoly power controls what most people hear. If the majors release something new that does not completely suck, I am astounded. Innovation and the best of what is new is coming from local artists who produce their own music, but they are not likely to ever get rewarded for it.
  • @samking4179
    Only 10 minutes into this and already think that this is one of the most interesting people on the planet. Great guest choice, Rick!
  • @Cynsham
    This is the single most erudite, intellectually stimulating, and frankly the absolute best podcast I’ve ever seen or listened to in my whole life. I cannot praise this sort of dialogue enough.
  • @eclexian
    What I love most about Rick’s interviews is that he knows how to set them moving in a direction, and then let the patter be about the guest, not about himself*! Too many interviewers seem most concerned that you’ll be impressed with how smart *they are. I find that nauseating, and Rick has none of that. Go Rick!
  • @hjvarfjell
    It's amazing to listen to his analysis of Spotify, and what he thought was going to happen. Knowing what happened just about a half year later. With Spotify stopping payments to small artists. Which means that the majority of royalty payments are now going to the power players in the industry. He was pretty spot on.
  • @samferrer
    I want more of this guy ... please bring him back ...