Is This a Framing or a Plumbing Code Violation?

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Another great video! Looks like the plumber used a cs-16 nail strap of sorts on the sole plate. You are dead on with plumbing on exterior walls. It only takes a few consecutive cold nights to cause a problem. We don’t see hard freezes much up here in the NW but it happens, and when it does it gets expensive. Keep looking up man!

Thanks for the information. Very good to know.

Well, can they fir-out that entire wall and it will have more airspace to add more insulation??? And I agree, No Plumbing On an Exterior Walls, I never understood why people do that, might as well slap yourself in the face with a Pineapple, ha ha ha !!!

Great catch. I see this once in a while as well. In fact, I recently had to look up this code and found out the guard has to be at least 2" above the top of the bottom plate. So this one is def not by the book.

I think it’s more of a framing problem, I Typically frame the laundry walls with 2x6

Electrical is 1 1/4" plumbing is 1 1/2". That bottom is a strap, and is the required thickness for a pipe nail guard. Code doesn't say it has to be a boga plate, only the pipes need to be protected. That strap does meet the minimum 16 gauge requirement however it does not meet the required 2" above the sole plate requirement so it should be replaced. In warmer climates where freezing is a rare issue, pluming on the exterior wall and the transfer of heat to pipes through the it is fine here in SA Texas. May be a concern in colder climates though.

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nice video really good insight

Sometimes there is framing underneath that is not visible in the video. Also depends on where you live in the South exterior wall plumbing almost never a problem if insulated correctly, but yeah still avoid if you can.

Do to being outside wall i try to stay to inside edge to have room for insulation but really should be on outside wall ..

I wouldn't think this is a framing issue as the bottom/sole plate is routinely removed for door openings with the requirement being any displaced studs will have king studs and headers to span the opening. This hole doesn't displace any studs. The main issue appears to be that the hole is close to the edge of the plate without adequate protection per IRC para. P2603.2.1. I'm not an inspector just building my own house, so am interested to see if someone finds where this violates a framing code per IRC. Drains and vent lines are routinely run in outside walls and the code just says to protect drain lines from freezing. Typically there is insulation between the pipes and the exterior walls. That said, I personally think if you live in a cold climate you should avoid putting a P-trap in an exterior wall if possible.

Try and tell that to the home owner and the cabnet installer. The home owner doesn't like the look when they come threw the floor and the cabinet people hate because they have to work a lil bit more . I never put water lines in outside walls regardless how much every hates it. I will even move a washer box if need to inside wall. .. peopel dont understand air gets behind the brick pocket or siding and it will freeze up. Especially when the power goes off . Its easier to repair if does freeze and break than rerouting or taking out vanity or brick. You want frozen or busted pipes because aesthetics not function.

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Also he probably has a rim joist that he can t drill..though or cut ,

the more i look at this the more i wonder about that 3x2 san tee feeding that autowasher p trap. why is it a 3 inch drain and 3 inch vent, is there other units draining onto that line and then wet venting the autowasher? thats a big violation i think if it is

Plus it looks like the exterior walls are 2x4.

The code is that if less than 1-1/4" it must be nail plated. Not that pipes must not be closer than 1-1/4" . I think that is what you meant.