Putting electric cars to the test. Are we ready for 2035? (Marketplace)
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Published 2024-01-26
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Chapters:
1:51 - Testing range (part one)
3:10 - Testing charging and price
11:17 - Testing range (part two)
13:24 - Testing repairs
18:26 - Speaking with Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault
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FIRST BROADCAST January 26, 2024
All Comments (21)
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One of the worst parts that wasn’t even mentioned was that you need AN APP FOR LIKE EVERY DIFFERENT CHARGER!! Imagine needing that to pump gas?!?? An esso, petro, shell, husky app or you CANT FILL UP!!
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The government needs to mandate billing per kwh. Billing by time is completely unacceptable.
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Say what you will about Teslas (build quality, price, customer service, etc) but they have the most reliable charging network right now, especially if you plan on doing road trips. That was definitely a major factor in why I bought a MY over something like the Leaf or Mach E, etc.
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There are comments to just "charge from home overnight". With what?...an extension chord from your apartment or house strung down the street to where you found parking? Not every home has a driveway or garage, not every apartment building has parking. A lot of work needs to be done before the date in question. Why not have the entire fleet of government cars EV. Let them try to work out the kinks and see the challenges then perhaps the issues everyday people would be figured out quicker.
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Winter highway battery range test as a standard, legal requirement for auto manufacturers ✅
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I think the Minister needs to drive an EV in Western Canada during a cold snap when the temperature is below -30 C. Let’s say a trip from BC to Calgary or Calgary to Edmonton.
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I live in Illinois and have both a 2023 Model Y and a 2023 Bolt EUV. Only twice have I every had a line at a charger with the Tesla, once during Christmas. Usually I have no issues and there are almost never problems with the chargers having a problem - possibly one bad charger at all out of over a year of trips. This includes driving to Texas once and to Florida another time. The Bolt charges so slow and relies on the CCS network, I don't even bother with it on long trips. However, for around the town trips, or going to St Louis and back, I only need to charge at home. Add up all your visits to the gas station within a 100 miles of your home and nix them from your life. Also, charging at home is so cheap that gas would have to be %1.50/gallon to compete with either the Model Y or the Bolt.
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Did anyone else notice that there was no mention of how easy and dependable it was to use a Tesla charger. That trip was a farce. Anyone that owns an electric vehicle Knows your range would be cut and make sure they used a charger in between their origin and destination. Personally I drove from St Catharines Ontario to Alamagordo New Mexico and back with no issues along the way except for slowing down to reach my next charger a couple times. On the way back if I thought that would happen I would just program in a closer charger which was very simple. I will agree that public charging stations are charging way too much and no inconsistency in pricing . I know I payed over 5 times what I would pay at home for charging during off peak hours and around 4 time the cost of home charging during on peak hours.
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Big problem is nonstop headache finding fuel - if u can fill up at home all good. Government is pushing for more ev’s but first thing they need is enough charging stations.
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There is some good information here. Availability and pricing is a very important issue. Using a CHAdeMO charge vehicle, is not a realistic comparison to the majority of BEV vehicles. As there is less availability for those chargers. For winter driving? Could you have mentioned the difference you car having a heat pump would make? Did you research battery per-conditioning? There are practices to learn in using any new vehicle. Your discussion with the minister was interesting, I am not sure how informed he was on the minutia of the matter. Your points on standardized charge prices and a possible practical range listing are important. I plan on purchasing a BEV, but I see that innovation = less freedom when it comes to tech. It is time to regulate the manufacturers to protect the consumer. This carries over to ICE and BEVs. Please do an episode on automotive subscription services and their expense. It makes me wonder if I really own the car I "buy".
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I went to Buffalo from Toronto 2 months back and we got lucky to see that every Level 3 DC charger along the way actually worked!
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I think my main issue with this is the testing was mostly for large metropolitan cities and travel between them. Take BC for instance, if you go North of Kamloops, yes there are "some" charging stations the more North you go, but they're 25-100kw charging (hours to charge to 80%) and can be maybe 2-3 stations at a time to share with. Hardly the 350kw fast charging network (15mins~) we need to make a travel network possible and tesla stations seem to stop showing up the more north you go as well. Honestly for those who need to travel or need to make visits going north than the major cities, you're likely still better off with a gas or a hybrid car/suv/truck. The foundation and maintenance is barely in place functionally for the major population centers, and when you're spending $50-100k+ for electric vehicles, not being able to go where you want, especially without the 15min DC 350kw fast charging, I see electric as nothing more than a rich person's spare vehicle for city commuting, not something I want for "road trips" or god forbid from what reviews have shown between Ford, Tesla and Rivian that their trucks are terrible at towing/hauling distance (less than a 1/4 of advertised distance).
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It always feels like these ministers have no clue about the edicts they issue.
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charging issues in an "emerging market" is like sitting at a gas station with "no gas"
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People need to stop and think of the realestate required if all vehicles are electric. A fast charge is still 45 minutes for the equivalent 5 minute fill up of gas. 9 times the amount of charging bays compared to gas filling bays, and that is the fastest charging tech.
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god I can already picture people fighting over charging stations
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Can’t wait till someone has a emergency and is like hold on I need 2 hours to charge my car
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The one major issue in this video is that it doesn't show them using any of teslas supercharging stations which would avoid these problems. The tesla hate is real, even when they make things a lot easier...
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How about interviewing people who represent the vast majority of people who love their evs and have excellent ev ownership experiences. I loved my ford evs, Kia Ev and Tesla ev my wife and I have owned.
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It took approx 80 yrs for ICE cars to be developed to the point of good reliability and safety that was affordable to the general public.Govt`s are trying to introduce millions of Ev`s in 5 or so yrs that should be the same standard,or better.It`s not going to happen.The public are not going to buy,or lease a car that could burn your house down with your family inside,even if the chances of that happening are extremely low.EV`s are still in the experimental stage, and the public don`t want to be part of the experiment.