Romans 8:29-30 Predestination Adoption Foreknowledge Called Election

My girlfriend recently broke up with me because I don't believe in the "doctrines of grace". I even gave an explanation of Romans 8:29-30 very similar to this one, and she seemed to understand it at first, though I think all the buzz words muddied things for her. Now I'm an "outsider". It saddens me how sincere Christians like her have been brainwashed into thinking this way. She even told me "Are you saying that my church and my family have been wrong my whole life?" It reminded me of something my old pastor used to say: "How do you know you're being deceived...you don't, because you're being deceived." I've really appreciated your approach to these issues, and it's caused me to be weary that I'm not carried by every wind of doctrine either. Appreciate and love your ministry, it's been an encouragement to me during this difficult time.

Fantastic teaching Kevin. We are blessed to have you. I came to faith in Jesus at age 46 in 2014 and came under the teaching of MacArthur, Piper and Sproul for many years. I was never of the belief of Calvanism and had really not picked up on the system. My wife and I relocated to a different state in November 2021 and quickly became members at what turned out to be a 5-point TULIP variety church. This became crystal clear after I had been invited into to a small group of individuals for training for potential future elders and deacons. The training was weekly and scheduled from September 2022 through May 2023. On the first night each of us was issued the book Systemic Theology by Wayne Grunem. During the fourth or fifth class we went through the chapter dealing with the order of salvation and TULIP and reprobation. I immediately thought "I don't believe this." I raised my concern to the lead pastor who was the leader of the course. He had no interest in studying the scriptures. Instead, his response was "That's just the way it is." Long story short... My wife and I left the church within two months. We have since very carefully settled in to a local church that is neither Calvanistic or Arminian. When I now listen to Washer, Piper, Sproul, James White, which I'll intentionally do, their arrogance astounds me and I truly do wonder where their faith resides... Quite possibly their election and their providing their election by "persevering..." I now see their preaching and teaching in a totally different light that almost always concludes with what sounds like works-based salvation. Thanks again! I often share your videos even with people from the church we left including one of the pastors and elders I got to know fairly well. Thanks for your boldness!!!!

By listening to you I feel like I am hearing the gospel for the first time. This gospel (the one and only true gospel as it was always meant to be) is so pure and simple and beautiful when it is freed from all the clouds of presuppositions I have absorbed through my life. Thank you, Kevin. And thank you God.

Ref: The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism by Kevin Wilson, Ph.D. 2:05 Rom. 8:29-30 7:42 Rom. 8:23 12:55 1 Peter 1:2 28:42 Rom. 8:13-17 29:50 1 John 3:2 33:14 Eph. 1:12-14 1 Cor. 6:20 41:40 Rom. 8:18-23 43:07 Rom. 5:2 45:41 1John 3:2 48:13 Rom. 8:24-27 50:33 Eph. 1:5 Rom. 8:23 1:06:26 Rom. 8:28-30 1:06:51 2 Thess. 2:14 Eph. 4:1 1:10:19 Rom. 8:1, 12:2 1:16:33 1 John 3:2 1:18:45 Gal. 4:8-9 1:20:01 Eph. 2:12 1:24:43 Rom. 4:5 1:26:18 Rom. 8:36-39 1:26:53 Rom. 8:33 1:28:34 Eph. 2:12

Brother the truth you speak and the authority of which you speak it is extremely apparent to those that love the truth. God bless.

So good! I wish Calvinists would drop the ego and listen.

Thank you brother.

God chosed the already saved people who got it by grace through faith alone, according to their own free will, to be predestined to service and then be glorified. Brillian, my church also teach this.

Appreciate the questions at 1:28:05 - 1:28:30. Good insight; food for my thoughts!

No one without a Ph.D. in front of their name could study the scripture 2nd Timothy 2:15 and come away with the heretical understanding of Calvinism, others are brainwashed studying their lies. Calvinism is far worse than the cults of Mormonism and "Jehovah's Witnesses". Not just because of the level of deception but because they flat out call God a liar and Calvin the truth giver. Calvinism = self-centered, self-righteous narcissism. Thank you, Kevin, so much for what you do! I'm so ticked right now at the majority of pastors that have legitimized the false teachers spreading Calvinism. If more had been doing their job, maybe the one that got my daughter sucked into this abomination would not have been deceived too, being a false blasphemous "preacher". My daughter cast me out of her life and my grandchildren for warning her, I certainly didn't' teach her that. Thank God she is one of those you mentioned in one of your other videos that received Jesus as her savior before getting into Calvinism. The HUGE problem here is that my grandchildren don't have that luxury. If there is anything I would suggest to you, It's that you aren't near harsh enough on the false teachers from the pit of hell preaching this false doctrine. Even though you are harsh on them and rightfully so. I think you get it, right now there probably isn't anything that would be harsh enough in my eyes for these degenerates preaching a hell-bound message. I'm sorry, who am I to suggest anything to you? It's just that it has hit so close to home, and I'm fighting mad, with righteous indignation, and anger for these false teachers. God bless you, keep up the great work! Never grow weary in the good fight that you are fighting, remember "a good fight is one that you win". Paul wright

Great video. Thank you sir!!!

Thank you for this video , totally agree .

Thank you kev 🙏🏼

This is wonderful powerfully clear and clarifying teaching! Praise God!

Thank you so much! Listening to this now....so glad you are addressing Romans 8:29-30...I was just asked about how I reconcile this the other day and I thought of emailing you. praise God ..He answered my prayer!

Kevin, I cannot stress enough how important your videos are. Some of us (I speak of myself) don’t have personal relationships with Christians that we can engage with and grow with as ‘family’. Some of us only have deeper theological interaction with Calvinists, standing seemingly alone as wave after wave of accusation hits us: proud, vain, man-centred, man-glorifying....along with pleas to humble ourselves, stop kicking against the pricks, along with their wishes to be reconciled and that they really care, if only we would just listen. It cause a lot of anxiety, sorrow, isolation, anger, even becoming defensive unto silence. Your videos are like a return to solid ground after being dragged down into quicksand all week; a reaffirmation of biblical truth and knowing that I’m not the only one in this fight. Thanks, brother.

I lost count of how many times I’ve watched this... but there is SO MUCH GREAT INFORMATION that I want to dissect that I get a fresh perspective each time I watch it! Thanks Kevin, you are a truly anointed blessing!

i love this so much. it's unreal how firmly these presuppositions are engrained in my mind. i know i don't believe them but i can shake them out of my head. it's so odd. i need to diligently study and read to root this deeply.

This is why it only takes one juror to prevent someone from getting the death penalty. That juror seen something that convinced him or her that the defendant doesn’t deserve death even if eleven others did. We must all be able to think independent from each other and not a bunch of lemmings.

Thank’s Kevin for dealing with this passage. The Calvinistic grid is slowly but surely being removed. Loved the explanation of what Adoption of Sons is about - the redemption of our body and not Salvation. The only thing I’d say about not letting anybody shut you up is that when you’ve got something to say that it’s done respectfully and openly. I particularly liked this session because you’re honing in on the ‘U’ in the TULIP which seems to be an area that even if God removes the TLIP from Calvinist’s thinking it’s the ‘U’ that they still hang onto and find hard to shake off. Hopefully this session will help them do that! Thanks for all that you do in setting people free from Calvinism presuppositions and the mind control that that grid has over peoples minds when interpreting scripture.