BREAKING NEWS!!! Elon Musk And Tesla Bet Harder On LFP Batteries!!!
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Published 2021-08-18
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When Tesla announced its new 4680 on Battery Day 2020, there was much hype and excitement about this high energy density, low-cost battery being a revolutionary product. Apparently, that is not the case anymore. The way Tesla technology innovates and evolves with time it seems the 4680 is not a big deal anymore. Even before the 4680 could trend as a great battery, the company is now betting harder on their new LFP batteries. Will this be goodbye for 4680? Let’s find out.
After such a hullabaloo over the new battery breakthrough and how the 4680 would be a game changer for the electric vehicle industry, Tesla has taken a leap ahead and announced a new product the LFP battery that would shove the 4680 into the background. The LFP or Lithium Iron Phosphate battery is not exactly new in the literal sense of the word, it is an older version of a battery but Tesla CEO Elon Musk has been making very bullish statements on iron-based batteries revealing how Tesla is making a “long-term shift” toward older, cheaper lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) cells in its energy storage products and some entry-level EVs. I’m sure many of you viewers and Tesla fans will be confused, and what’s going to happen to the 4680?
Why is Tesla backtracking on its awesome 4680 battery, perhaps there could be a commercial reason involved. Only recently, China’s largest EV auto manufacturer BYD announced the launch of its own Blade batteries, generating a lot of attention because of its successful test scores. The thing is the Chinese Blade is also an LFP battery and even though Tesla is using these in the EVs that they make in China, it could pose serious competition to Tesla. Is it possible that Tesla’s decision to retract back to LFP batteries has something to do with the commercial challenges posed by the Chinese Blade battery?
LFP batteries are obviously going to impact Tesla electric vehicle manufacturing by leaps and bounds. The company says LFP batteries will reduce the cost of energy storage and vehicles by a considerable margin.
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All Comments (21)
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This video is mostly BS hype. 4680 is a specific size that can employ numerous chemistry formats. Different formats for different uses. Tesla will gladly buy all the batteries it can get regardless of source.
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Maybe I should watch to the end, but... Edit: yup, I should have :) The 4680 is not a battery chemistry in as much as it is a high speed battery manufacturing method for a range of battery chemistries. Get the 4680 line up and running with the planned chemistry, and then build a same-format LFP. Both formats have value.
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I know, it's exciting.... I came here to listen to you. No need to shout incessantly!
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Lol I don’t think they’re backtracking. You can make LFP in any form factor
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Tesla is laying its hands on any batteries they can get, as long as they are good. I don't believe they are stopping the 4680 productions as they are still far short of what they need in the future.
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The 4680 is more of a structural innovation than a chemical/chemistry breakthrough
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Best LFP battery comes from BYD with its Blade Battery and it will be even for Tesla difficlt to compete with BYDs cost efficiency
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Why not call it LiFePO4?, for a moment I thought it was a new battery chemistry
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Thanks for the updates
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Your chemistry and basic knowledge of LiFePO4 is astonishingly wrong. Do you even have basic understanding of the pro's and con's of each of the batteries (.e.g. cobalt vs LFP). Stop spreading false news.
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We're still in the early days of high-power, high-capacity li-on batteries and I'm sure we'll see a blending on the tech from the 4580 batts and LFP, from canned to prismatic, etc., as the chemists and engineers scramble to find the best solutions. Li-on hasn't been around that long and will go through many iterations before we get to the "ideal" batts. They're all working towards charging at: 500kW to deliver 500 mi. range and ~10 min. recharge time, with 1 mm miles of life. Until we get to that, we'll see many changes.
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You've made a fundamental misunderstanding of Tesla's battery policy. The 4680 will play a massive part in Tesla's future plans. Lithium Nickel batteries will continue to be used in all Tesla Long Range vehicles, Cybertruck, Semi etc. LFP batteries, are being used especially in China & the EU because Tesla is severely battery constrained...
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Thank you so much!! new tesla owner here.. And your Channel is one of the best for information!! I have a question.. please help. what should my “charge current” be set at? I have a nema 14-50 outlet with a 50amps circuit installed.. I see 12A, 30A, etc idk which is best for the battery (I have the LFP) Also, should I charge 90% daily and 100% once a week?? What about charging to 100%... not using much of it all week and then when getting to 20/30% charge again to 100 after couple of days??
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There is no reason why the 4680 battery cannot have an LFP chemistry. It will still be superior based on the fact that it will be integrated into the chassis of the vehicle. You already show a number of different battery chemistries in the 18650 form factor. The 4680 cell could also use any one of these chemistries just as well, but the LFP chemistry will do what Elon has always promised - bringing the cost down.
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4680 is a form factor, not a cell chemistry. You can have 4680 LFP cells. Maybe the Model 2, Model 3, Model Y can use it in their daily driver chea... uh, inexpensive, vehicle configurations. You know the ones that aren't Model S or X Plaid It would be in keeping with Tesla's mission to let BYD, and indeed all automakers, use the battery chemistry in their own form factors, like the Blade. 4680 could/should/would be strictly for Tesla.
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Complete crap reporting. They announced this as part of their strategy on battery day. 4680 was for range and performance, lfp for cheaper models.
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My understanding of Tesla battery day is that they are developing 4680 batteries in three chemistries. Including LFP and Lithium Nickel chemistries with no cobalt. One of the advantages being that the battery becomes a structural part of the vehicle.
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I see BYD dominating the market. Tesla is falling behind in every aspect of the game.
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What about a 4680 tab-less LFP ? Boom 💥
