INTERNET HISTORY: Dramagedon 2 (part 1)

it's still so bananas to me that tati claimed there was nothing she could do to change james' behavior other than dropping a public nuke on his career...like girl, text his mom lol

When this situation happened I went from: "Damn, James is such a bad friend" to "Damn, Tati is such a bad friend" to "Damn, everyone involved in this sucks"

In hindsight, it’s so ironic that the accusations against James weren’t even the focal point of Tati’s video and she was more upset about the sugar bear hair thing. It’s giving “I can accept sexually inappropriate accusations, but I draw the line at gummy bears”

She didn’t care that her friend was a predator she just felt betrayed and that’s literally it

Tati saying "c*ck" will be something I don't think I can ever forget.

Even though we found out later that James is hugely problematic as far as his romantic interests go, this has always bugged the hell out of me about Tati- she either knew he was a predator all along and stayed quiet until it benefitted her to speak out OR she was willing to lie and throw him under the bus over vitamins. People choose to let that major detail slide, and it bothers me so much!

i remember the internet going from being 100% on tatis side when bye sisters dropped then, 100% on james side after no more lies. then everything came out about james crimes, tatis manipulation, and jefferre and shane’s involvement and people had no idea what to think.
i think the way the internet flip flopped has changed the way we think about these situations since things were wayyyy more complicated than we first believed.

this drama was so major that my boss’ 10 year old stepdaughter was giving me updates in real time during the workday. Dramageddon 2 had a GRIP on us 😂

I have watched so many deep dives and recaps of this nonsense and for some reason is never stops to fascinate me. Thank you for your coverage!

I remember coming home from prom when Tati posted 'Bye Sister.' I remember watching James's subscriber count go down so quickly. What a crazy time.

Maybe its because I'm closer to Tati's age but when I first heard of this drama my reaction was 'These are full grown adults acting like this?????' and also 'you went to cry in a public form for all the internet to see because your friend used someone else's product??????'.

My reaction now is pretty. much the same.

it makes me happy for hannah knowing she’s gonna make BANK this month. fuck yea get that bag u deserve it! not a SINGLE video has been a miss so far.

this “drama” really feels like it can’t be covered enough bc of its enormous impact on youtube, the perception of youtube in mainstream media, and the youtube beauty community. never forget history or you’re doomed to repeat it (or whatever the quote is lol whoops)

When Tati dropped Bye Sister I was going through ketamine treatments for severe depression and I remember I woke up to James' video in an absolute ketamine EUPHORIA and I was like yes bitch let's do this. I went to grab a Ben & Jerry's pint and settled in. Maybe it's bad but the drama was hot and fresh off the presses and I was living for it lmao

Even before Tati called him out, James openly talked about creeping on men and frequently did it on camera. And people defended him!

I think it’s also important to note that when Bye Sister dropped, it felt like it had a lot of credibility because so many celebs on Twitter called out James too! Jeffrey tweeted saying how his boyfriend hated when James came over, Zara Larsson tweeted something similar too, the Dolan twins to whom he’s left several cringy comments on their posts thirsting after them and later became his friends had now unfollowed him, among so many others that I’m forgetting. I mean it also came from Tati, who was pretty much unproblematic and felt like a mother figure in the beauty community! Like the video held a lot of weight coming from her alone, but the fact that so many celebrities backed her up, it felt like a pattern of behaviour that everyone felt (later found to be true). that’s why I chose to believe what she was saying at that time!

In 2019, I did not think internet drama could get any bigger. I was SO invested in dramagedeon 2.

"everyone remembers where they were" it's actually insane how true that is and all for some youtube drama. I was in a cab, going home after a night of clubbing at 5am and in my drunken, exhausted haze I accidentally opened youtube and saw it there. Promptly slapped my friend awake and we stayed up until the sun rose to watch it

Till this day I cant understand how an almost 40 y/o woman couldve claim to be friends and to have such a strong friendship with a 19y/o, I mean, I have 19 y/o students... I cant even imagine to be in their world outside of school life like how...?

I think there was a big thing you missed. Tati asked James to promote Halo Beauty and he said no because his fan base is young and he didn’t want to do that. She was extremely understanding of that. THEN he went and promoted Sugar Bear Hair. So that’s why she felt betrayed, Coachella tickets were more important than his integrity and their friendship.