What happened to Windows CE on the SEGA Dreamcast?

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Leading up to the launch of the Sega Dreamcast, in 1998 Microsoft and Sega announced that the up-and-coming Dreamcast would use Windows CE - an embedded version of the Windows Operating system for smaller portable devices. However, when the Dreamcast launched, all 18 titles did not use Windows CE at all. This was a very strange pivot, and many wondered what had occurred. In today's episode we take a closer look at Windows CE on the Dreamcast and what ultimately led to its decision to make it available only as a secondary option for developers to use.

Sources :

► news.microsoft.com/1999/03/16/microsoft-announces-…
► segaretro.org/Windows_CE
► www.wired.com/story/why-i-still-play-dreamcast/
► www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/windows-ce-notably…
► www.30pin.com/features/windows-ce-history/
► • Microsoft Windows CE 6.0 Emulator & Apps

Timestamps:

00:00 - 03:37 - Introduction to Windows CE
03:37 - 08:46 - Misconceptions of Windows CE on the Dreamcast
08:47 - 10:09 - Conclusion/Outro

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コメント (21)

@LonSeidman 10時間前

I had a whole fleet of Windows CE based IBM Thinkpads that I bought cheap back in my IT days. We installed DOS emulators on them for an inventory project at my old job. Those were the days!
@mawnkey 8時間前

Fun fact: the version of Windows used for the XBox had basically nothing to do with Windows CE. Microsoft definitely learned lessons from their CE experience to build it, but CE itself is different from any other OS in their lineup. The XBox ran off a stripped down version of the Windows NT/2000 kernel which is directly related to every version of Windows used by consumers today. CE, meanwhile, was a kernel completely separate from the NT or 9X series that was retired in 2013.
@fabio78 10時間前

I know MVG cleared up the fact that Windows CE wasn't to blame for poor performance, but goddamn if it isn't then a coincidence that nearly every Windows CE title runs like crap compared to "native" DC games.
@joe_schmoe_420 10時間前

Early morning video game history is the best way to wake up Thanks MVG
@MartinPiper6502 10時間前

During my time at Argonaut UK and programming various SEGA consoles, I don't remember seeing any of the Windows CE support or SDK.
@MiaJiyar_XOXO 5時間前

I don't understand how Dreamcast games aren't backward compatible with Xbox consoles? Xbox should definitely look into this. I've been saying this for years.
@martinantelo7086 10時間前

My understanding is that Windows CE allowed for quick porting of PC games from that period, since the APIs were more or less the same, requiring less code rewriting. So for that alone it was worthwhile, maybe games like Soul Reaver wouldn't have been ported otherwise.
@bedwablackburn 10時間前

That actually does clarify quite a bit, including why the Dreamcast was so good at emulation for the time. Build for CE, have it load CE and run with it
@manojsahu-hr9qe 10時間前

Sad to see that sega Dreamcast was the last console from sega it was waay ahead of its time
@simonorange4191 10時間前

Thanks for clarifying the Windows CE myth. I always thought the bad frame rate on Sega Rally 2 was affected by that.
@faenethlorhalien 10時間前

This was such a great idea and it's almost a crime that it went nowhere after the DC. The XBox should have inherited the system
@magicknight8412 10時間前

This was interesting, I never really knew what Windows CE was doing on the Dreamcast as I also mistakenly thought it was the operating system and thus the Dreamcast was a Windows machine.
@SRC267 9時間前

Someone ported 3D Pinball - Space Cadets to Dreamcast, which is cool, they also done it for NDS. KallistiOS is a powerful tool.
@CocoHutzpah 8時間前

That explains quite a lot. Years ago, I burned a few CDs with emulated Neo Geo games for my Dreamcast. I thought it was novel that the emulator came in the iso with the game, as at that point, I had installed emulators on the Wii and game roms were separate. Keeping the OS on the disc really is a brilliant move and I understand why the scene around the Dreamcast is still so vibrant.
@yvesrn 9時間前

I was so excited to get my Dreamcast on 9.9.99. NFL2K blew me away. I even brought my DC with me on a ski trip so I could play Crazy Taxi. Gone too soon.
@chrispybee 10時間前

I must admit, I never really knew what Windows CE was on there for. I had it in mind it was used for external peripherals such as modems.. Great insight and learned something today.
@chuckd.68 8時間前

Experiencing the Dreamcast when is first came out was just a joy. It always felt ahead of the PS2 and Xbox. So many hours on NFL2k1
@itis3000 8時間前

Back in 2009, I remember there was an Dreamcast emulator called NullDC. That emulator has refused to run WinCE games
@Chaoskeeper56 9時間前

Crazy you uploaded this the same time I'm on a Dreamcast kick. Just got a new disk drive for mine and have been playing it nonstop!
@AwesomeGames56 10時間前

My next obsession is more than likely going to be Dreamcast, I’ve finally finished collecting all the other consoles I’ve wanted since I was a kid so there’s nowhere to go but up.