Obama on AI, free speech, and the future of the internet

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Published 2023-11-07
Former President Barack Obama sat down with The Verge’s editor-in-chief and Decoder host Nilay Patel to talk about AI, social networks, and how to think about democracy as both of those things collide. The conversation, which took place just hours after President Joe Biden signed his executive order on AI, covers some of today’s biggest issues in tech and policy. Of course, we also had to ask Obama what apps he has on his homescreen. #AI #Technology #Podcast

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0:00 Intro
0:30 Biden’s executive order on AI
05:38 Tech regulation & avoiding mistakes of social media
11:30 Why AI companies are asking for regulating
14:52 Silicon Valley’s pushback against regulation
17:35 AI rules and who’s responsible for following them
19:43 Should tech platforms be treated as common carriers?
22:57 Regulating around the First Amendment; copyright law
25:08 Red Lion v. FCC & the Fairness Doctrine
28:26 The rise of AI-generated social feeds
33:41 AI copyright lawsuits & labor effects
39:47 Obama’s experience using AI chatbots
41:39 Obama’s homescreen apps

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All Comments (21)
  • @TheVerge
    How should the government regulate AI?
  • @garretthamlow
    God I’ve missed when a president can form a coherent sentence. What a breath of fresh air
  • @mkbhd
    Lots of really insightful conversation and answers to questions, loved it.
  • @djp1234
    So refreshing when a president can talk like a normal human being and stay on topic.
  • @davidwilliamdw
    I miss having such a thoughtful and intelligent president. Though not perfect when it comes to foreign policy, there is a lot to be said for a president that genuinely wants to improve things for the marginalized. Best president of my lifetime.
  • @subhav
    Obama's post-presidency interviews are usually pretty thoughtful, but there's something refreshingly different about the conversational nature of this one. I appreciate that you tried to bring out the wonky law-lecturer side of President Obama and not just the cautious, reflective side. You guys took yourselves just seriously enough. Great job, Nilay, and thanks for the awesome content!
  • @maikvoets3628
    Oh man, the quality of this.... talking about technical progress happening in media today - This feels like having Obama in my living room.. From all the social media out there, YouTube has become my favourite lately.
  • @miloshp7399
    I wouldn't usually listen to every politician talk tech. But Mr Obama is amongst the few brilliant ones.
  • @WhatsInAName222
    Every time I hear him speak, I realize how much I miss him. A deep thinker and terrific speaker.
  • @Leuel48Fan
    So refreshing to hear a leader merely competent in the basics of technology let alone the nuance shown here. Our next president should be under age 60!
  • @Mr_Battlefield
    I think these questions also needs to be asked in a interview with the CEO's of each AI company as well. This interview was good. I just need to hear more from different points of view.
  • @j4nkh4nk
    I've missed quite a few Decoders, but I definitely didn't miss this one. Definitely one of my faves and I'm super glad Nilay got to do it. Thanks!
  • @LeeWoods
    Great interview. He's such a genuinely thoughtful and smart guy
  • @paternyao
    Nilay wearing the suit and tie is hilarious 🤣
  • @ammini999
    It is always a true pleasure to listen to the President express his thoughts on any topic. I imagine that many would desire his capacity for communication.
  • @cenonebora
    Man I love how he organizes his thoughts - I mean the topic here is fairly technical and you can tell he has done the research. Very impressed :)
  • @tonylouis6072
    We really took it for granted having a president who was smart, decent, likable and honorable. We thought it was always gonna be like that
  • @derek1049
    Blown away by the video (the quality of the capture/editing along side the personality), great job Verge and Nilay.