The Failure of Game of Thrones Season 8... 5 Years Later

The fact that the kid who won the game of thrones isn't one of the characters you talk about says a lot about the show 😂

Theres something almost poetic about season 8, the show runners fast tracked everything so they could go off and make a Star Wars movie despite HBO begging them not to do this. They did it anyway and everyone hated the season. Disney ended up not making their Star Wars movie partly because of the reaction season 8 got. They wanted it all and lost it all.

My biggest problem with Cersei is that it made no sense why anyone would follow her after season 5. She had no money, she had no legitimacy to the throne, everyone knew she was an idiot, King’s Landing was starving, and she was exposed by the walk of shame. It made no sense that a 2nd riot of King’s Landing didn’t happen.

Jamie sacrificing himself to protect Bran and kill the night king would have been great. Him going back to Cersei to do anything but kill her is also terrible.

The best of Daenerys in the last two seasons was her outfits.

"Best season ever?" Emilia Clarke

jaime killing the night king? for generations after, people spoke of his nickname "kingslayer" with pride instead of revulsion.

Jaime saying that he does not care about the innocent people sounds like something you would come up with if someone tasks you with writing the most out of character line possible for this character. The equivalent would be something like Dany saying that she plans to enslave everyone (which she honestly came pretty close to), Jon wanting to make an alliance with the Night King in order to bring eternal night to Westeros or Arya saying that she wants to marry Joffrey, be his queen and have many children together.

One of the weirdest decisions DnD made was to make it so that Jon didn’t want to rule. In the books, he wants that so bad. He was so close to accepting Stannis’ offer to legitimize him and become the Stark of Winterfell and the struggle between his personal desire to get the recognition he’s always wanted against the duty he has to the Wall and the Watch is so interesting.

Arya killing the Night King is the moment I knew this show was beyond saving. I don’t think I’ve ever felt so empty watching a show as in that moment. Everything that followed after was just whatever to me

It makes no sense for Littlefinger to give Sansa away to the Boltons. He wants their eventual defeat, so why give the object of his obsession away permanently?

The only good thing that came out of season 8 was the jokes and memes regarding the Starbucks cup left in one scene tbh.

I never thought about Jamie killing the Night King, but it's actually a great payoff

There's no way it has been 5 years already!

I gotta say, I LOVE the idea of Jaime being the one to kill the Night King in your mini-rewrite. Makes the "Kingslayer" nickname one hell of a foreshadowing and turns it into a true badge of honor.

I love that all the clips from season 8 are so dark that even on a phone with the brightness cranked all the way up, they’re almost impossible to see. Such a reflection of the season overall

Jaime’s arc finale is truly tragic writing. He had so much more potential and it all felt undone.

It still hurts after all these years. What a different world wouldve been if it had been a good ending. But as George writes, "But it did no good to brood on lost battles and roads not taken. That was a vice of old done men." - A Dance with Dragons, Epilogue

What you've forgot to mention about Cersei is A) the Maggie the Frog prophecy also mentioned that she's to be killed through the hand of her "valonqar" - which she translates with "small brother" but is simply "younger brother". She believes that Tyrion, the physically "small" brother, who has also "killed" their mother, is going to kill her. That's why she hates him so much. But Jaime is also her younger brother, she was born before him, and it was a fan favourite theory that it means that Jaime is the one to kill Cersei. Unfortunately, in the show they butchered this plotline completely. B) in the show, she is portrayed to be saddened by the death of her baby with Robert, however in the books she admits to Ned that she willingly killed the baby she had with Robert because she simply didn't want to have a child with him. I think that is a very important point to mention. Because it shows her character.

My theory always was thar after Cerse's 3 kids die, she and Jamie have another, a daughter. She dies during childbirth, bring truth to the prophecy that a younger, more beautiful queen will strike her down. She never had anything to fear, all of the pain she suffered and people she killed was for nothing.