Diet and Death | Dr. Peter Attia | EP 360

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Published 2023-05-25
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Peter Attia discuss healthspan, lifespan, obesity, the profound difference simple changes can make, diseases such as cancer and diabetes, and realistic ways you can actively work toward a higher quality of life.

Dr. Peter Attia is a renowned physician and longevity expert, specializing in metabolic health and performance optimization. With a background in mechanical engineering and a medical degree from Stanford University School of Medicine, Dr. Attia brings the principles of Medicine 3.0 to patients with the goal of lengthening their lifespan and simultaneously improving their healthspan. Through his podcast, "The Drive," and his website, he shares insights on longevity, nutrition, and human performance. Possessed by his passion for helping individuals achieve optimal health, he combines science, data analysis, and personalized care to inspire others to prioritize metabolic health and lead fulfilling lives.

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(0:00) Coming up
(0:11) Intro
(1:23) Lifespan v. healthspan
(5:18) Cognitive decline and exercise
(10:30) Why exercising is difficult to start
(12:10) The benefit from going zero to three hours a week
(14:33) Setting positive behaviors
(17:36) Weightlifting and Cardiovascular exercise
(20:33) Grip strength is a great marker for life span
(22:03) Sarcopenia: loss of muscle mass due to age
(23:10) Rucking as a means to bypass cardio plateaus
(25:20) The best exercise for your lower body
(26:00) Eccentric strength: why the elderly fall
(27:37) Working up to height
(28:47) Diabetes, metrics of testing
(32:13) Decline in insulin sensitivity
(35:01) The difference between healthy and nearly dying
(38:47) What your eye doctor can see
(41:34) How much fat your body can actually store
(45:30) In awe of the liver, how glucose is stored in fat
(48:01) The food pyramid was not produced by scientists
(50:35) The Standard American Diet is SAD
(54:04) Are all calories created equal?
(58:23) Arthritis and diet
(1:00:01) Scientific literature on the carnivore diet
(1:02:41) Restrictive diets, weight loss and inflation
(1:09:09) Appetite and endurance on restriction diets
(1:11:52) Concentration benefits
(1:14:35) Cancer hits its peak first
(1:16:57) What’s happening when cancer spreads, self v. non self
(1:20:14) What you can do about cancer prevention
(1:24:12) The challenge in optimal screening
(1:27:32) Lesser known drivers for cancer
(1:29:05) Almost no research funding goes towards prevention
(1:30:51) Where should the resources go?
(1:33:30) Youth and exercise, standing desks
(1:34:37) The system does not do what the name says it does
(1:35:33) Emotional health and longevity
(1:37:33) Fear, lockdowns, and mental impact
(1:38:46) Self care
(1:41:04) Through the lens of a patient
(1:43:05) Self Authoring and Future Authoring
(1:46:30) A three pronged plan for healthspan
(1:47:31) The marginal decade exercise
(1:49:18) You need a reason to change

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All Comments (21)
  • @mathieuboilard9017
    I'm a professional researcher in cell biology and I consider this interview to be some of the best info you can find on the web.
  • I am 72 female with a family history of severe depression and bipolar disorder. In addition, type 2 diabetes is rampant in my family. I have been exercising almost daily for over 35 years. Exercise has been my savior. I've never needed medication to manage my depression and thankfully, I am healthy.
  • @PrivateSchemers1
    "Dont let perfect be the enemy of good" - what a powerful but simple phrase, I had never heard it before. It motivated me into working out today, let it be known.
  • @vondabethel5696
    Turned 49 this year, both parents passed with diabetes and hypertension and the chronic illnesses that those contribute too...I absolutely needed this information, God sent this video to me today, I already have type 2 diabetes and hypertension...3 hours a week is a miracle for me, and the changes I will be making after this video is as if I have recommitted my life to Christ after being a Christian for my entire life. Thank you so much! I am changed!
  • @nvarras7
    I turned 50 this year. I began listening to Dr. Attia. I joined a functional fitness gym. It is like my mind got a tune up. My body also. My problems seemed to become smaller and easier to deal with . I have neglected my health for years. My wife says I seem 15 years younger. I’m now starting to also clean house with toxic personalities around me. Tolerating people who are narcissistic is as toxic as drinking cyanide.
  • @Roman-ht7rx
    Damn, every once in a while Dr Peterson gives us all these precious gems of knowledge for free. What an impact on society. Thank you, sir
  • @gioxpfr
    I started Keto about 2 months ago. Then saw videos on Carnivore diet. I saw JP's video on Joe Rogan about his experience on the Carnivore diet. Also his daughter's video. I've been following Dr Chaffee, Dr Ken Burns, and Dr Shawn Baker. Also a regular guy tracking his personal experience with Carnivore at Homestead Now on YouTube. They convinced me to try it. I'm having the same experience as JP on it. I'm almost 60. My energy level is through the roof. I'm power walking every day. I've hit the gym 3 days this week lifting weights like a 20yr old. I haven't felt like this in about 20 years. I just had lab work done and everything was great. I'm type 2 diabetic and have struggled keeping my A1C below 8.5. My medicine wasn't doing it. Now I'm 5.5 in the normal range. My triglycerides were about 300. Now around 100. The only thing out of range was my B12. It was high which the doc said was not bad. I'm usually very low in B12. I'm feeling so good now. I had fibromyalgia, arthritis. After working out to my max on everything, I'm not sore at all. Joints and muscles feel great. I've eaten a few carbs here and there and when I do, it has a very noticeable negative effect on my body in a very short time. Bloating, gas, reflux, heartburn, tired. My sinuses have been crystal clear. Last night I had some of a dish with noodles and an hour later, my sinuses got stopped up and I was coughing up a ton of mucous. I've put my dog on carnivore too. A 7yr old black lab who was very overweight, always hungry, had bad joint pains, very sluggish. She shed hair like crazy and had a lot of eye goop every day in both eyes. I feed her bacon and eggs, Ribeyes. We walk every day. She has literally lost half her weight and looks like she did when she was a puppy. She's full of energy now. No joint pain. She can jump and run again. No more eye goop and shedding is almost stopped. She's a very happy pup and doesn't beg me for food all day. No more kibble for her. No more dog food with plants in it anymore. She's getting the proper diet. As for cost, we both are eating much less so I think it all evens out. I'm planning on coming off all meds soon. All supplements too. Just red fatty meat. Beef!
  • At 50, I was convinced to become a vegan to preserve my perfect health and excellent fitness, following a successful solo bike tour of the US Pacific coast. My physique was better than I was at 18, and I was in great shape as a very active teen. 7 years of vegan dieting destroyed my life, my body, and my health. First signs were arthritis, Lupus. Then skin disorders, vision problems, muscle mass loss, joint pains, and nervous twitches. Hashimoto's Disease followed. Night sweating. constipation. tinnitus. I double-downed on my vegan diet, fully convinced I was doing the best for myself. I developed insulin resistance/per-diabetes, triple-vision. I was literally legally blind. I couldn't ride a bike, barely able to drive a car safely. I had Cushings Syndrome. gastro-intestinal disorders, rectal bleeding. I had insomnia, and would pass out after I ate. And I at 4-6x a day, feeling a need to snack as I got hungry after main meals. My hair was falling out. I had periodontal disease with bleeding gums and I lost a molar! I was 57, looked 67, and felt like 77. My skin hung off my limbs. My rear end is totally gone, all the muscle. It hurts to sit for a long time. I was prepared to kill myself just to end the suffering and deterioration. Then I contracted Omicron and suffered it for a week. I recovered quickly and it changed my mental state. I was fed up with my condition. Then I discovered your daughter's TedX video on her journey and struggle and her Lion Diet. I jumped head on into carnivore diet. I began eating beef after a 10 year absence. Red meat, eggs, cheeses. Cut sugars, reduced starches/carbs, limited most produce and fruit. No potatoes, no coffee, no vegetable oils. The transformation in 3 months was remarkable! During my vegan diet, I gained 6 inches to my waist of visceral fat. 37+" and dropped to 31" waistline. All of my visceral fat is gone. My hair grew back thick, my vision improved, my arthritis disappeared, and my gums stopped bleeding. I slept better, my mental state improved dramatically. I'm still on my road to recovery. But without Mikhaila Peterson's efforts, none of this would have happened. And for that, I'm so grateful to your family. Keep up with your important and needed good work.
  • @janealan2142
    After a second viewing of this excellent podcast and hearing Dr Attia say that exercise is the most important element of health on longevity I can't help but think that we should promote dance for a whole variety of reasons from preschool to retirement home. Dance teaches coordination, burns calories, increases cardio vascular output, promotes cooperation, provides socialization and is fun. It has spin off benefits for music and musicians and costume designers. It's adaptive to all ages and abilities from recreational to competetive. Dance covers it all.
  • When your favourite psychologist meets your favourite doc for a chat. Thank you both for putting so much insightful content on the internet for free, so we can all work on ourselves and become better humans.
  • @noahsheehan7824
    This is an amazing interview. After hearing about the carnivore diet through Jordan, I decided to try it myself. The results were just outstanding. I was 30, and weighed 360lbs at the time of starting the diet. Within a year, I lost 135lbs and dropped from a waits size 44 to 36. I had lots of different health issues including gastric reflux disease, insomnia, depression, lathargy, daily headaches, gum disease, and overall unhealthiness. Since Ive been on the carnivore diet for 2 years now, ALL of my health issues/symptoms have disappeared. I have never felt better in my life, I have what seems like unlimited energy, and my cognitive ability has improved dramatically. I would love to see more studies done on the carnivore diet. I can absolutely say it worked for me.
  • @mihaeladog7187
    When I had a dog I would go into the woods and exercise him ( he was a GSD high drive and high maintenance). Now I don’t have the dog and I am not exercising for my own health. Interesting how my dog’s health was so important to me that I forgot I also exist. His training, exercise and diet was the pinnacle of my life.
  • @type1design
    As an adult diagnosed Type 1 diabetic this is arguably the most interesting episode I've ever listened to.
  • @adrian__baxter
    One of the most crucial discussions the world needs at the moment. Hope this gets the views it deserves.
  • @rhondatracy7093
    So glad I took the time to listen. I have been on the keto/carnivore diet for 4 months and I am now 118lbs. At 5' tall, it put me at a Normal wt and bmi for the first time in years. I am mentally sharper, I feel good, active. I should probably mention I am 67 yrs old.
  • @MsBethharris
    My Husband had Prostate cancer… he had radical surgery and radiation. At the 5 year mark we thought he was home free until he started bleeding from the bowel. Upon investigation it was discovered that he had advanced Stage 4 (inoperative) bowel/colon cancer. Two months later, I was diagnosed with colon cancer-which was found through early screening (long story-I’ll spare you the details) I was not diabetic, nor obese, and relatively fit (for a 62 year old female). I had a bowel resection and some lymph nodes removed. No chemo or radiation was necessary. 3 years on I’m cancer-free. My husband died in February of 2021 after multiple debilitating aggressive treatments. I have been on a Carnivore diet for 3 months now, and feel 40 again!
  • @tonkajahari3010
    This is good information. I’m a trainer/nutritionist and I use a habit-based approach with my clients, as well. It usually starts with morning cardio. Doesn’t matter how long. Literally 2min is fine. Just DO that and build the habit. Having done that every morning, you set yourself up psychologically to be more likely to modify your other behaviors throughout the day. “I worked out today” is already programmed into your mind as a pre-script for your other decisions. That’s a huge modifier on your day. “What’s for lunch? I worked out today, so I should go for a chicken salad instead of a sandwich. Maybe I’ll eat it outside and get a little walk while I’m on break.” Little daily victories build massive results over time.
  • @coorgvalley8983
    Staying useful with a purpose is key to maintain cognitive health 🔑
  • @sergiyzuev9712
    This interview literally changed my life. I watched it 9 months ago when it just came out, and it gave me the motivation to finally start working out again. Since then, I haven’t skipped a single training session. We all know that working out is important for your health, but it’s only after dr. Attia’s words I realized JUST HOW IMPORTANT it is. I haven’t struggled with motivation to train ever since. It’s absolutely clear to me now just how stupid it is to not work out. Thank you so much for sharing this!
  • @cocosilkworm
    Sometimes it seems like many of us are just lost. Over-analytical, focused on things that don't really matter that much in the grand scheme of life. And forgetting to savour the small gifts that we busily pass by each day: the fragrance of the flowers on the corner before you reach the train station on the way to work; the warmth of the winter sun kissing your skin in the morning; the birds drinking nectar from a blossom that you don't know the name of (and it doesn't matter really, it only matters that you notice it); the sunset that is a work of art sometimes days in a row; grabbing someone's hand and twirling in the light summer rain just because; helping a stranger when no one else noticed their struggles; stopping to listen to small children playing and giggling and actually acknowledging the true miracle of life from whence we all came; and savouring a bite of food that someone went to the trouble of making with their own hands sometimes over a number of hours and just enjoying the flavours, absorbing the love that came with the preparation and giving of that food, and the sharing of that food with another whether in peaceful silence or animated conversation. Lest we forget...