Rick Rubin: How to Access Your Creativity

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Published 2023-01-16
My guest is Rick Rubin, one of the most renowned music producers of all time, known for his work with a wide range of artists, including Run DMC, Public Enemy, Beastie Boys, Red Hot Chili Peppers, JayZ, Adele, Johnny Cash, LL Cool J, Slayer, Neil Young, Ye (formerly Kayne West), Tom Petty, and many more. He is also the author of a new book, "The Creative Act: A Way of Being," which explores the creative process and how to access creativity. We discuss topics such as finding inspiration, the role of feelings as guideposts, learning from observing nature, balancing self-doubt and anxiety, and adopting new perspectives to channel the creative process. Rick also shares his thoughts on using deadlines, eliminating distractions, and how our experiences and emotions influence the creative process. Additionally, we discuss his love for professional wrestling. Our conversation can be applied to any activity or profession to access creativity.

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Timestamps
00:00:00 Rick Rubin
00:04:08 Maui Nui Venison, Thesis, WHOOP, Momentous
00:08:23 Creativity & Ideas, Cloud Analogy
00:12:26 Language & Creativity; Kids
00:17:36 Feelings & Creative Ideas
00:22:01 Rules, Choice & Art; Personal Taste & Other’s Opinions
00:30:20 Changing Perspective & Creativity
00:33:55 AG1 (Athletic Greens)
00:35:04 Scientific Knowledge; Opinions & Art
00:41:27 Finishing Projects; The Source & Nature
00:47:40 Perception Filters, Contrast & Novelty
00:58:42 Music & Identity, Evolving Tastes
01:03:03 InsideTracker
01:04:14 Focus, Disengaging & Subconscious; Anxiety
01:13:22 Collaboration, Art & Rigorous Work
01:18:26 Process & “Cloud”; Perception & Storytelling
01:29:13 Limited Resolution, Considering the Inverse
01:35:38 Wrestling, Energy & Reality; Dopamine
01:49:43 Wrestling, Style & Performance
01:52:40 Resetting Energy & Nature; Nostalgia
02:01:56 Sleep, Waking Up & Sunlight, Capturing Ideas
02:08:16 Creative Work Phases; Structure & Deadlines
02:15:32 Self-Doubt & Performance
02:19:13 Predictability & Surprise, Authenticity
02:25:02 Past Experiences, Other’s Opinions
02:29:42 Public Opinion & Science: Light, Acupuncture & Nutrition
02:39:44 “Look for Clues”, Belief Effects
02:46:25 Attention, Emotion & Art
02:48:07 Mantra Meditation, Awareness Meditation
02:57:33 Rick Rubin Questions, Zero-Cost Support, YouTube Feedback, Spotify & Apple Reviews, Sponsors, Momentous, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

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All Comments (21)
  • @labsanta
    Takeawey: 1. Creativity is closer to magic than science, and kids are more creative than adults because they have no baggage and are open to seeing what is. - Art making is a process of looking for feeling within ourselves. - Creativity is closer to magic than science and language is insufficient to drill down on it. 2. Creative artists need to focus on changing their aperture to come up with new ideas and recognize when something feels creatively right. -In art, it's important to be able to recognize when something feels creatively right and to be able to translate that into actionable suggestions without relying on language. - Limiting your palette to something manageable forces you to solve problems in a different way and understanding how you feel in the face of other voices without second-guessing yourself is key to developing as an artist. -People who have a compulsion to do things their own way and ignore feedback are more likely to develop The Taste than perfectionists. -Creative artists need to depart from the commercial endeavor of creating a story to please others and instead focus on changing their aperture to come up with new ideas. -Artists have the superpower of recognizing the obvious and accepting that we don't know anything, allowing for a wider range of possibilities. 3. Discovering the unknown can be beneficial for creativity, connecting us to the physical world and our imagination, and music from our teenage years can evoke powerful emotions. -Discovering the unknown can be beneficial for creativity, connecting us to the physical world and our imagination, and music from our teenage years can evoke powerful emotions. -Breakthroughs in science are built on assumptions that may not be correct, making the consequences of these discoveries incalculable. - creating something without knowing how it will land can be more beneficial for creativity. 4. By paying attention and being aware, we can collaborate with the universe and become more aware of our environment. -I clear the static by dedicating all of myself to a project with total focus and no outside distractions, then disengaging from it and engaging in something else before returning. -Anxiety can be seen as readiness to move forward, and collaboration with the universe can be done through love, joy, and delight. -We create stories to explain our experiences and filter out what we don't understand, often believing them to be true. -We have limited perceptual filters and our memories are confabulated, so looking to nature for truth is critical to understanding reality. 5. Wrestling provides an opportunity to access creative energy and source due to its unpredictable nature and ability to provide dopamine surges. -Creativity is about breaking boundaries and trusting the process to find the nuggets of gold. -Natural landscapes change and cities change, but people either accept it or don't, and the speaker doesn't look back to the past. 6. Exploring interests and trying different approaches can lead to unexpected projects and opportunities, while self-doubt can be used as a balancing tool. -Collecting ideas and exploring interests can lead to unexpected projects and opportunities. -Adult plasticity exists and is now being recognized, despite being actively suppressed in the past due to competitive nature of discoveries. 7. Meditating in various forms can help us stay present, override the conscious mind, and heal faster. -Belief has power and we can use it to create something great by noticing the elements around us and taking the opportunity to explore them. Spread your love.
  • @atuanoiniin
    10 years ago if someone would have told me that I'll hear Rick Rubin going deep about the creative processes and the perspectives he utilizes, I would have laughed. To be able to hear these kind of conversations and for free is insanely cool. Thank you!!
  • @DDTSB2525
    Rick never interrupts during any conversation - I need to be more like Rick 💙💙💙
  • @ellaeink
    Mr. Huberman, I have never commented on a YouTube video before and don't find much interest in the platform in general, as well as any other social media platform. I began listening to your videos while Doordashing just to make time go by faster. You have an incredible mind and I love the way you go about describing scientific concepts in an indefinite way. You go through explaining topics based on your knowledge of current scientific beliefs with an open-ended, curious ambiance. I thoroughly enjoy listening to your thought-provoking videos! Thank you for your content! Sincerely, A single mother who Doordashes for income from Kansas
  • @YasminA-jm9zs
    I appreciate how Andrew and Mr. Rubin are relaxed and well spoken. Taking the time to listen to one another and choosing words carefully before speaking make it easier for viewers to understand. Thank you for the great conversation!
  • This interview reminded me of a quote I once read about the process of writing a novel but can be applied to many things: "writing a novel is like driving a car in pitch black night, you can only see what your headlights illuminate, but you can make the whole journey that way"
  • @donwrongo5327
    These two geniuses together for 3 hours ? For free??? Time just goes away during this interview. Thank you 🙏🏻 both
  • Andrew, as a 20+ year broadcaster, I have a tremendous amount of respect for how quickly you’ve become such a good broadcaster and/or communicator.
  • @joncamp9126
    It’s funny how Rick keeps pointing to the fact that science is not near as definitive as it or he or we think it is. He does many times and every time Andrew gets real quiet without challenging. Vice versa Rick really doesn’t bite when it comes to wanting to put things in scientific language. I love seeing two people come together that speak different languages but have tremendous respect for one another. Setting a great example! Thanks!
  • @retro-ronin
    The person I follow the most for everyday life advice and the person I follow the most for artistry and creative advice are together in my favorite podcast. It doesn’t get any better than this. You’re a legend, Andrew.
  • @dmz5141
    Andrew asks highly complicated over analyzed wonderful questions and Rick takes a moment, takes it in and responds, “ it’s just a good feeling, a surge of energy”. I love it. These two are the yin and yang of Complex and simple.
  • I can feel Rick's childlike sense of jump in and go for it ,and I can feel Andrew's resistance to burning the sage and cutting loose at a dead show. This has helped me immensely because I am as free creatively as Rick but I catch myself resisting like Andrew and I fully relate to both of you so well I wish you would do this together again.
  • @Surrounder720
    I just found out about Rick Rubin today, and to me he is an incredible inspiring man. This man is a down to earth spiritual master imo. There is a calmness about him, and he can listen. I love how he is demonstrating how life is actually working and daring to be curious to the unknown instead of wanting to control every possible outcome. I love how he speaks about how limitation can actually be more helpful then infinite possibilities. I also like the contrast of a scientist interviewing a man who is not interested in facts or beliefs. Thank you both
  • My FAVORITE interview to Rubin so far. He is on a high level of consciousness.
  • As a visual artist -70 years - I completely relate, have experienced, and agree with Rick. He has verbally distilled the mystery of what it is to have a creative moment, act, and life. Amazing interview!! Thank you for the interaction of your thoughts! Beautiful!
  • @claudelk1719
    Unbelievable how either Rick Rubin either turns out to be the one doing the interview, or absolutely no one can ask him a direct question. Most of his interviewers always take ~5 min giving background before asking a question. The dude has a way to get it out of people, get people to talk, feel at ease, feel listened, etc. By simply framing his questions, Andrew got to the answers all by himself so many times. Truly incredible to witness!
  • @ohhhgreat4052
    Thank God the internet exist in my lifetime, I would never listened to such deep and knowledgeable conversation without it. Thank you so much for making this happened Dr. Huberman!
  • Have to take a moment and realize how blessed I am to be staring at the exact beach Ruben is talking about in Hawaii. Working on Rubens Hawaii house and listening to his wisdom is incredible. 2/28/23 🤙🏼👌🏼
  • @sillynelson1
    1:58:55 This was the most interesting part for me. As someone who constantly longs for the past and deals with intense nostalgic depression, it amazes me that Rick says he never feels that way and only focuses on the present and future. I’m currently trying to find ways to not let nostalgia affect me so much, but anything can set me off. An old movie, an old song, my childhood, my friends that died, anything. I want to live in the present as much as possible but its so hard to not think about the times that have come and gone.
  • @Ana-mn8ln
    What a privilege it is to hear two open-minded individuals with differing perspectives on life talking to each other so honestly and respectfully.